Hey Daenin, just curious as to why you're opting for the non-profit route vs. LLC, Corp., etc. (Hope that's not getting too personal.)
Got any non-profit status set up expertise?
Hey, I am starting to set up my wellness center with non-profit status and membership levels. As I am digging deeper into this, I am realizing that it is relatively easy to set up but quite a bit more challenging to set up really well. So I am looking for some experienced folks who know some things to explain my concept to who can offer some good solid pointers.
Anyone wanna point me a good direction?
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Posted by Amy Vercruysse, Austin, Texas | Sep 24, 2007
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Posted by Leila Anasazi, St. Louis & Seattle, Washington | Sep 25, 2007
It's great that you grok that a non-profit set-up is best done "right".
Have you sorted through that there are two levels of non-profit (in Washington State). Level one is the simple filing as a non-profit with the Secretary of State, and is moderately easy/inexpensive. Level two, is tax-exempt status, which requires navigating the challenges of the IRS application (expensive! too).
I'll be back later to post a link to a nifty overview that you can download which might get you some of the pointers you seek.
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Posted by Leila Anasazi, St. Louis & Seattle, Washington | Sep 25, 2007
Here's that URL
http://www.kcba.org/scriptcontent/KCBA/publications/pdf/nonprofit/NPHandbook.pdf
272 pages! Have fun.
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Posted by Eva Schweber, Portland, Oregon | Sep 25, 2007
I have been a nonprofit consultant for 10 years and therefore have lots of experience on this topic. I am in Oregon, and don't know Washington's laws very well, but I can help with IRS stuff.
I agree with Leila that getting it set up right is also critical and I am wondering where you are in process and what your specific questions may be at this point in the game.
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Posted by Lara Feltin, Seattle, Washington | Sep 26, 2007
I was amongst a group of people that turned an arts organization into a Wa. State recognized non-profit and later a Federally recognized 501(c)3. But it's been some years now.
A couple of us took an AWESOME class from Nonprofit Assistance Center on setting up a non-profit. It was a couple years ago, but if I remember correctly, it was something like a 3 hour evening course and the information I came home with was invaluable.
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Posted by Daenin Tejeda , Seattle, Washington | Nov 04, 2007
Hey Amy,
thank you for your question. We started this whole thing, very ambitious knowing that we have more people power than capitol. As the 13 moons collective we came together to bring healer types together with biz folks to get more organized and be able to build a more fun, more sustainable way of life and really crete an awesome center for teaching and crosstraining eachother in the Healing arts creting basically a Spa with massage and top notch metaphysical healing services. That collective has also formed small groups of action teams that were also interested in: 1alternative education, 2sustainable technology, 3tools of wisdom,
4tools that reconnect people to the earth and 5research in elemental healing 6Ancient Kabbalistic & Lightwork studies of a Spiritual nature 7Alchemy.We Literally built the place with our own hands and used 90 percent recycled materials. I mean almost everything we have is donated or recycled! It seemed like a good fit for us since we have so many projects and humanitarian causes and little to no start-up capitol. I thought this would help others get a tax write off who wanted to support our causes while we figure out how to navigate through the next steps in our vision.
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Posted by Daenin Tejeda , Seattle, Washington | Nov 04, 2007
Hey Leila,
Yes, I have managed to procure that tidbit of information about the two kinds.
Yes pointers are good, I'll check out your link.
I'll pack a lunch and wear shades to keep my eyes from bugging out ;-)
Thank you for your help! I'm feeling pretty "green" in this unfamiliar non-profit world, so I really appreciate your help.
Blessings! D~
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Posted by Daenin Tejeda , Seattle, Washington | Nov 04, 2007
Eva,
Currently we are active as a non-profit and have an EIN number, but do not have tax-exempt status. We have been also trying to figure out if we want the protection of a parent company to act as a sheild for protecting intellectual property should "Arcania the center" get into trouble. We're wondering do we need a foundation? just an alliance? Should we put Arcania as a not for profit under an LLC or S-corp and how does that work?
While we are trying to get ready long term we still have just really been getting started with the center, it has only been open a month and a half. We are mostly concerned about making the right preliminary steps that will set us up for later on in the game.
Thank you so much for offering help! I wonder how different it is in Oregon because they don't have sales tax!
Blessings
David
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Posted by Daenin Tejeda , Seattle, Washington | Nov 04, 2007
Lara, thanks for the link and recommendation, I'll check it out. You all rock!
Thanks again for helping out the newbie! :)
David
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Posted by Daenin Tejeda , Seattle, Washington | Nov 04, 2007
Leila, i'm checking out the link you gave me and it is really well written and easy to read! Thank Goddess!
I think this is really going to help me,
Thanks again!
David Rodolfo
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Posted by Daenin Tejeda , Seattle, Washington | Nov 04, 2007
Leila,
I just checked out your link and it is so well written and easy to read! This is really going to help us navigate!
I'm am feeling so encouraged! Yay
David
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Posted by Daenin Tejeda , Seattle, Washington | Nov 04, 2007
Hey Lara, it looks like that have an ongoing training on setting up a not for profit On the fourth Tuesday from 4-5pm. Could that be the same thing, or is that something different?
Blessings,
David
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Posted by Lara Feltin, Seattle, Washington | Nov 06, 2007
That sounds familiar, but if I remember correctly, I took a 3-hour class.
Then again, they may have changed some things in the last 4 years.
Try giving them a call.
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Posted by Leila Anasazi, St. Louis & Seattle, Washington | Nov 06, 2007
David, good to hear that you feel encouraged. Here's another link, this one for when you've evolved to the point of asking for grant money. The Grantsmanship Center
TGC gives an amazing training. Its tuition seems costly, but it's well worth it. Sheez, 14 years later, I still refer to their training materials when I am trying to write persuasively.
Looks like they'll be in Seattle in June.
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Posted by Scott Ringo, Virginia Beach, Virginia | Mar 07, 2008
We found NonProfit set up very easy, inexpensive and as quick as 2 weeks through Ocean Grand http://www.OceanGrand.org.
The Ocean Grand staff is very knowledgeable in all things nonprofit and will even help an organization to learn to fundraise and grant write! They include Online giving.
Their nonprofit set up fee is pennies compared to other services and they also take care of all your accounting, bookkeeping, tax filings, independent audits, and even banking. It is like having your own administration staff leaving you free to do the nonprofit work and none of the paperwork.
They can also handle more complicated tasks like running payroll for your staff, image branding, print media creation, web sites, etc.
They are a breeze to work with and make nonprofit work even more enjoyable than it already is.
You owe it to yourself to check them out http://www.OceanGrand.org
They will even set up a nonprofit outside the US.
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Posted by Kathleen Whalen MS AOM, Seattle and Lake Forest Park, Washington | Mar 08, 2008
I just spoke with some one from the Secretary of State office for charities at 1-800-332-4483. She was immensely helpful and clarified which steps were the crucial first ones. There is a new number for not for profit corporations that was just assigned last week. It is 360-753-7115.
Everyone has given some great links above that I have begun to read. And thank you Lara for the link to the classes. I look forward to the grant writing link.
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Posted by Leila Anasazi, St. Louis & Seattle, Washington | Mar 09, 2008
Hey Kathleen, I do not know what the link didn't work but here it is not embedded in the text: http://www.tgci.com/
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Posted by Keith Gormezano, Seattle, Washington | Mar 09, 2008
Here is the direct link to Leila's site
Scott's direct link is http://www.OceanGrand.org
Kathleens site is http://www.tgci.com
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Posted by Theresa Petrey, Ellensburg, 2nd Office in Burien, Washington | Mar 25, 2008Perhaps this is not a timely response. Non-profits are technically owned by their boards and not their founders. One has to be certain that they are willing to allow their "baby" to grow into adulthood without them. It's useful to read up on Founder's Syndrome and how that can ultimately destroy a non-profit. You can spend a lot of time developing a non-profit with the hope of creating an income for yourself and wind up with no income and no involvement in the non-profit when all is said and done. I've had a lot of experience working with emerging non-profits and sooner or later, the founder's issues always surface.
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