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Posted by Joe Hage, Seattle, Washington | Jun 15, 2008

Subscribe to Community-wide general discussion Tim Russert's death

Tim Russert's death may have been avoidable.

Read this, and seriously consider getting defibrillators for your kids' schools, your offices, and anywhere else they can save lives.

21 Bizniks have posted replies

  • Joe Hage
    Posted by Joe Hage, Seattle, Washington | Jun 15, 2008

    Watch this 3-minute video too.

    I met this girl and there is no question she would be dead had there not been a defibrillator at her school.

    I'm definitely getting one or more AEDs in my sons' school.

  • Judy Dunn
    Posted by Judy Dunn, Renton, Washington | Jun 15, 2008

    My heart is breaking. That such a talented—and kind—news legend could go so quickly, and two days before Father's Day. He is one of the reasons for my daughter waking up and getting involved in the political process (delegate to the Democratic county convention and Obama campaign volunteer).

    This is incredibly important. A couple of years ago, when I was still doing grant consulting, we started getting funding for defibrillators in a school district that was one of my major clients. And recently our church got one and trained people to use it.

    Thanks for bringing up this critical topic, Joe.

  • Elizabeth Lee
    Posted by Elizabeth Lee, Seattle, Washington | Jun 15, 2008

    As you know Joe, I am hoping to purchase a defibrillator for my sons' soccer team. As a parent who watches her kids and others exercise strenuously several hours a week, as well as take blows to the chest, I don't intend to be unprepared in case of a life threatening emergency.

    Thank you Joe for raising awareness about these life saving measures.

  • Joe Hage
    Posted by Joe Hage, Seattle, Washington | Jun 16, 2008

    Eventful day, Friday.

    Two hours after Mr. Russert died, my colleague in Midland, MI needed to use his defibrillator on a little girl. Here's the article as it appears in the local paper.

    Sudden cardiac arrest takes 1,000 lives in North America every single day. And to think, I didn't even know what a defibrillator was a few months ago much less how important it was to own one.

  • Arthur Torelli
    Posted by Arthur Torelli, Seattle, Washington | Jun 16, 2008

    The Magnolia Rotary purchased several defibrillators for the businesses in the Village. I think it was a great idea. We should try to get more of the organizations we're in to purchase these for public use. Art T.

  • Joe Hage
    Posted by Joe Hage, Seattle, Washington | Jun 16, 2008

    Defibrillation has two problems.

    1. Not everybody knows what defibrillation is or what an AED (automated external defibrillator) does.
    2. People say, "What are the chances I'll need one" and think that the chance is low so they forgo the purchase.

    Cummins Engine is a major manufacturer. They had someone fall to sudden cardiac arrest 15 minutes after training was complete!

    What were the chances of that? I don't know. But I know one person who is glad they made the investment. Not to mention his family and friends.

    Bizniks, if you want to get defibrillators where your family plays, prays, or works, let me know. I may be able to get a few at a discount.

  • Joe Hage
    Posted by Joe Hage, Seattle, Washington | Jun 17, 2008

    According to The Wall Street Journal today,

    "Portable Automatic External Defibrillators, or AEDs, are designed to automatically assess a victim's heart rhythm and administer an electrical jolt as needed. The NBC office reportedly didn't have an AED, but an intern performed cardiopulmonary resuscitation on Mr. Russert until paramedics arrived with a defibrillator."

    According to the American Heart Association, a defibrillation shock within one minute increases the chances of resuscitation to 90 percent.

  • Caroline Strittmatter
    Posted by Caroline Strittmatter , Snohomish, Washington | Jun 18, 2008

    Okay Joe, I pledge $300 from each home sale to be put into a special account until I can purchase a defibrillator and get it to a local business of your choice in my community. You have my word on this. Caroline

  • Elizabeth Lee
    Posted by Elizabeth Lee, Seattle, Washington | Jun 18, 2008

    Caroline. What an amazingly generous act. I am saving money to purchase a defibrillator for my kids soccer team and cannot think of a better investment.

    Tremendous Caroline. Just tremendous.

  • Joe Hage
    Posted by Joe Hage, Seattle, Washington | Jun 19, 2008

    Caroline, "Wow" is all I can say.

    Can somebody get this woman a lead for some real estate in Snohomish? She even finds $35,000 for buyers from a government program I've never heard of.

  • David Krafchick
    Posted by David Krafchick, Seattle, Washington | Jun 19, 2008

    From what I heard from the doctors, Tim Russert suffered a massive heart attack and even with a shock, there would be no chance for his revival. Defibrillators are a great help, but it is not 100%.

    I have watched him for years and subscribed to the podcast. There are only less than a handful of media journalists I trust. Tim Russert was deffinitely one of them.

  • Joe Hage
    Posted by Joe Hage, Seattle, Washington | Jun 19, 2008

    David, you are right: defibrillators are a great help but there is no fail-safe solution for sudden cardiac arrest.

    HOWEVER, according to the American Heart Association's 2008 Heart Disease and Stroke Statistics:

    • On average, 27.4 percent of out-of-hospital cardiac arrests receive bystander CPR.
    • But only 2.05 percent received layperson responder defibrillation in 2002.

    In ventricular fibrillation (VF), it's the shock that makes the difference. It is exceedingly rare for VF to "convert" spontaneously with CPR alone.

    Thus, this string. If it motivates you to get a defibrillator in your child's school /your workplace - or you pass this along to someone who does - I will have accomplished something important here.

  • David Krafchick
    Posted by David Krafchick, Seattle, Washington | Jun 20, 2008

    I agree completely with your point and the stats. From what the medical docs said, Russert was medically beyond any help.

  • John Hays
    Posted by John Hays, Seattle, Washington | Jun 20, 2008

    Just a gentle reminder to all the folks getting enthused about defibrillators.

    I understand and appreciate your desire to be able to assist those experiencing medical emergencies. However, the defibrillator is not sufficient for handling the emergency all by itself. CPR and the defibrillator are both used in these situations. CPR can still help in situations where the defib unit doesn't help at all.

    General first aid skills prepare you to deal with even more likely and more common emergencies.

    What is your status regarding first aid and CPR/Defib training? Are you current? Have you ever been trained? Please apply some of your enthusiasm to the broader issue of emergency preparedness.

    I speak from substantial experience. While I am no longer currently certified, I've had over 30 years of experience teaching emergency medical skills, including defib when they came on the scene. I also have over 30 years of emergency response field experience above the wilderness EMT level.

  • Joe Hage
    Posted by Joe Hage, Seattle, Washington | Jun 20, 2008

    John, no arguments here: general first aid and emergency preparedness are important.

    Yet all the first aid in the world won't help a sudden cardiac arrest victim. And while CPR is absolutely part of the recommended "Chain of Survival" (below), CPR alone is insufficient to convert someone out of ventricular fibrillation.

    I know you know the following, I attach it for the rest of the Biznik community.

    The "Chain of Survival" is:

    1. Early Access (Call 911)
    2. Early CPR
    3. Early Defibrillation
    4. Early Advanced Care

    I wrote this easy-to-follow brochure about defibrillators. Have a look. Feedback welcome.

  • John Hays
    Posted by John Hays, Seattle, Washington | Jun 20, 2008

    Nice job, Joe.

  • Joe Hage
    Posted by Joe Hage, Seattle, Washington | Jun 22, 2008

    I want to get defibrillators in Biznik hands.

    I have a new promotion: Win an AED Defibrillator. I hope you enter to win.

    Joe

  • David Krafchick
    Posted by David Krafchick, Seattle, Washington | Jun 22, 2008

    I wholeheartly agree (pun intended)

  • David Krafchick
    Posted by David Krafchick, Seattle, Washington | Jun 23, 2008

    George Carlin just passed away from heart failure. He actually went to the hospital complaining of chest pains. With all the resources of this hospital, apparently the damages to the heart muscle was too extensive. When you compare this with Russert's sudden massive heart attack, this explains that sometimes there is nothing that can be done.

    I take an asprin a day and will continue every day for the rest of my life. That and really asking the right questions every time I go for my annual check up.

  • Joe Hage
    Posted by Joe Hage, Seattle, Washington | Jul 01, 2008

    Biznik Jeff Collins gets it.

    Thanks to Jeff's referral, his friend Chuck just bought three AEDs - one for his home, his son's school, and his office.

    Thanks, Jeff.

  • Jeff Collins
    Posted by Jeff Collins, I Come To You, Washington | Jul 01, 2008

    I was happy to point him in the right direction. His son, Grant, almost died in his home last year. While Grant's mother saved his life with CPR and a call to 911, an AED would have been a very helpful tool to bring him back.

    Here is the article in the Everett Herald

    Even 18 year old kids and younger can be in need of such a device.

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