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Corrina Steward
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Somerville, Massachusetts
Posted by Corrina Steward, Somerville, Massachusetts | Feb 12, 2008

Subscribe to Introduce your bad indie self Consultant and Coaching, recovering from the non-profit world....

Hello business owners and networkers! I'm officially one week into being a full-time business owner. I love the energy that small, entreprenuers put out. Does anyone have any advice for me about to adapt to the for-profit culture after years of not-for-profit thinking?


15 Bizniks have posted replies

  • Jeff Collins
    Posted by Jeff Collins, Seattle, Washington | Feb 12, 2008

    I think it would be a great idea to find others on this site who do what you do & ask them directly. I believe you will be surprised at how your 'competition' can actually be your ally.

    You might even end up starting or joining a consulting/coaching community. Sharing ideas would benefit everyone.

  • Elizabeth Love Sheehan
    Posted by Elizabeth Love Sheehan, seattle, Washington | Feb 14, 2008

    Some tips from me on the for-profit gig:

    1 - understand your customer. 2 - maintain absolute integrity. 3 - be fearlessly honest.

    If you do these things, you will always be useful. Good luck! :)els

  • Corrina Steward
    Posted by Corrina Steward, Somerville, Massachusetts | Feb 14, 2008

    I love it! Thanks, ELS. These I can do. In fact, it's quite the same as working in the non-profit world, always know who your constituency is, be true to your values and carry them out in your mission and build honet relationships.

    How are you fearlessly honest in your business?

  • Judi Finneran
    Posted by Judi Finneran, Carlsbad, California | Feb 15, 2008

    Welcome to the world of entrepreneurship! Lots of excitement and lots of fun and your investment creates great returns for you! Network, network, network and you will find people guiding you along the way happily!

    Cheers, Judi Finneran

  • Judy Dunn
    Posted by Judy Dunn, Seattle, Washington | Feb 20, 2008

    It's funny. All of the great tips above, in my opinion, apply to the nonprofit world as well. I transitioned from a management position at World Vision, an international relief and development nonprofit, to owning my own business. I learned that in both arenas, marketing and promotion are crucial to growth, whether you are talking about increased sales or more donors to fund your programs. (Know your target market, uncover your Universal Selling Proposition, identify the core needs and desires of your customers, etc.) I think that your nonprofit experience could actually help you. Anyway, welcome to Biznik!

  • Corrina Steward
    Posted by Corrina Steward, Somerville, Massachusetts | Feb 20, 2008

    Judy,

    I couldn't agree more. Much to my surprise, the non-profit world is seriously concerned about marketing and visibility. It's actually why I made the switch, because I felt like some of the marketing/fundraising stuff that was going on where I worked watered down the mission. At least working for myself, it's obvious that you have to make $$ at what you're doing but I can set limits more and really be in charge of the what I'm willing compromise to see good work get done and really change the world.

    How are you carrying your experience from World Vision to your business now? I also worked for an international development organization so I'm very familiar with the issues.

    Thanks, for the welcome!

  • Marty Grogan
    Posted by Marty Grogan, Federal Way, Washington | Feb 20, 2008

    The basic difference between for-profit and not-for-profit businesses is that no market can be made for not-for-profit businesses. Unlike for-profit businesses, non-profits cannot be bought and sold. Otherwise, the issues are quite similar. Both need to address finances, goods/services, resource allocation and core knowledge. Cultural differences stem partly from reality and partly from myth. Individuals employed in both types of enterprises can be equally generous or unsymathetic. Neither has a lock on nobility or political motivation.

    My advice--focus very quicly on your core knowledge. Target your services to those most in need who can afford to pay. Build from long term relationships while developing new ones.

  • Judy Dunn
    Posted by Judy Dunn, Seattle, Washington | Feb 20, 2008

    Corrina,

    We'll have to chat offline sometime. I was Manager of Writing Services at WV and it was a constant balancing, considering the quite different needs and perspectives of the promotional/marketing division and the program staff in the field. Their mission was most important, of course, but they couldn't do it without the grants and other funding we brought in.

    I learned so much at World Vision it is difficult to choose one thing, but I guess I have to say the people skills and the customer service ethic. 6,000 projects in 126 countries, phones constantly ringing, getting up at 1am to go to the office (this was in Los Angeles) to conduct a phone interview with a project manager in Senegal, that sort of thing. And I learned to respect and meet deadlines.

    I think you'll do great running your own business because you undoubtedly picked up skills like that, too.

  • Aamer Iqbal
    Posted by Aamer Iqbal, Lahore, Punjab Pakistan | Feb 22, 2008

    It is up to you to put a value on what you do, Corrina. If you don't put a high value, no one else will. I suggest reading the Way of the Accidental Entrepreneur by Molly Gordon. Her website is authenticpromotion.com. Mark Silver at heartofbusiness.com is another useful resource. I have found both useful as I too am new at coaching...a branching out from clinical practice. The best to you and your business.

  • Molly Gordon
    Posted by Molly Gordon, Suquamish, Washington | Feb 27, 2008

    Thanks for the plug, Aamer!

    Corrina, I agree with everything I've read above.

    The communication and management skills required for success are very similar. Yet, the emotional and spiritual relationship of an owner to her business and its clients can be quite different than the relationship of a non-profit board or staff member to the agency and its clientele.

    "Accidental entrepreneurs," people who have responded to a calling by working for themselves, can experience more stress and fear as entrepreneurs than they do in even high-level roles in non-profits.

  • Mark Silver
    Posted by Mark Silver, Portland, Oregon | Feb 27, 2008

    Yes Aamer- thanks for the plug, too!

    I spent years in the nonprofit world before going indie business owner, so I understand the transition. You actually are well-equipped to succeed- much as people said above. The vision and values that drive nonprofits are actually indispensible in the for-profit arena, where there is such a deficit of trust. The kind of sincerity that nonprofits bring is a tremendous asset in a for-profit business.

    You might like this article: How long does it take to get a business going?

    Or this one: Why you don't need a business plan.

    Let me know if those are helpful, or if you have any more specific questions that you're facing.

  • Judy Dunn
    Posted by Judy Dunn, Seattle, Washington | Feb 27, 2008

    Great points, Aamer, Molly and Mark. I need to check out Molly and Mark's websites!

    This is a topic near and dear to my heart. With our first (and still existing) business, Cat's Eye Group, we included in our business plan not just economic and service missions but a social mission, as well as our core values of course. Maybe it was I because I had come from the nonprofit world, or maybe that's just how we decided we wanted to operate. But we have never regretted it. I think you're right, Mark, about the "deficit of trust" in the for-profit environment.

  • Mark Johnson
    Posted by Mark Johnson, Seattle, Washington | Feb 29, 2008

    Interestingly enough I come from the for-profit sector and have just started taking a look at the non-profit sector. It seems most of you went the opposite way. I'm wondering if there is something to that. I'm assuming that the same challenges occur in both sectors. I have learned that the best approach is to focus more on my reaction to each new challenge. While you may be able to influence others the only thing you truly control is your own emotions. It's not always easy but it is vital to success.

  • Sarah Brand
    Posted by Sarah Brand, Seattle, Washington | Feb 29, 2008

    Find your niche. Figure out what your target market is and where your expertise, strengths and passion lie and go after those clients. It may be scary because you may think, "oh my, there are not enough of this sort of company. Or, there are already people in my field" but once you start building your reputation and having success your little world of influence will open and people will come to you. It is better to be fabulous at 1 thing than mediocre at 99 things. This was a hard lesson for me- when I first started I would take on clients no matter what- even if I didnt love their business model or if they were not in my area of expertise. Know when to turn someone down- refer them to another consultant, say you are not the best girl for the job. Once I started doing that I found that clients who are in my area came calling because I was directed at them, not all over the place. And then it grows from there.

  • Corrina Steward
    Posted by Corrina Steward, Somerville, Massachusetts | Mar 03, 2008

    Hi Sarah,

    Great advice! I'm realizing that's actually what I need to do. Get really, really focused and focus on my core strengths. It is a little scary to let some possible clients go, but I do know that in the end it will serve me. I've begun to think that I could narrow my target market to social and environmental entreprenuers and businesses, both to coach them and to provide them the consulting services that they wouldn't have staff to do since they are not like a big corporation that have sustainability officers on staff. Anyone think of any leads or resources to think further about this?

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