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Rachel Whalley
Seattle Alternative Healer & Psychotherapist
Seattle, Washington
Posted by Rachel Whalley, Seattle, Washington | Feb 18, 2008

Subscribe to Website discussion and bug reports How Important Are Biz Tips?

I'm enjoying the new Learn section, but I'm wondering about how much more Articles seem to be promoted over the Biz Tips. Is there a reason for this?

I've written one Article and three Biz Tips...usually because I don't want to generate more words to get up to Article length (500+ words required). And I wish the Tips would get their own little promotion on the main Learn page. They're just relegated to one corner in a "recently added" list.

I actually prefer a shorter chunk of information that's easy to manage...so I like reading Tips instead of Articles. And I prefer writing Tips, too. But I don't like how hardly anyone goes to look at the Tips.

I don't want to inflate my contributions just to get them to Article length simply so that they'll get better promotion. Is there any way to give the Tips a little boost? Or are they just meant to be less relevant/important?

11 Bizniks have posted replies

  • Dan McComb
    Posted by Dan McComb, Seattle, Washington | Feb 20, 2008

    Hey, you're the first person I've seen who earned the Tipster badge! Congratulations Rachel.

    Here's my thinking on Articles vs. Tips: Articles, because they are feature length, an article allows the author to really share (and reveal) their knowledge in a way that tips simply can't.

    That doesn't mean that tips aren't valuable - they are. That's why we have them there. We can and will do a better job of pulling tips out and making them more visible on the site elsewhere, which will give them additional visibility.

  • Rachel Whalley
    Posted by Rachel Whalley, Seattle, Washington | Feb 20, 2008

    Thanks for the comment, Dan. What I would really love is if my Tips would show on my main profile page along with my Article, and if Tips would get a little more play on the main Learn page.

    I hear you that Articles allow the authors to really explore a topic. I guess I've always had the issue that my thoughts don't lend themselves to longer exploration. And I find that often (not always), longer pieces of writing seem to have more fluff and need condensing.

    I like Tips because, well, as Jakob Nielsen has shown, people don't read online. They skim. So the more concise a piece of writing is, the more likely readers are to get the point.

  • Dani Nordin
    Posted by Dani Nordin, Watertown, Massachusetts | Feb 26, 2008

    I'm a fan of Tips as well - primarily because I find the information a bit more digestible, and being busy (not to mention an avid reader anyway), it's often easier for me to read a handful of tips than it is to read even 2-3 articles.

    I'm also, like Rachel, a fan of more concise writing. I find it's more helpful to make a couple of quick points in multiple posts than it is to try to explore one topic at length.

  • Leila Anasazi
    Posted by Leila Anasazi, Seattle, Washington | Feb 26, 2008

    Ditto, ditto.

    (I'm not trying to be snide with my succinctness, but ... the "articles" I've started to write turn out to have word-counts that make them Tips. And since Tips seem minor on the Biznik scale of contributions to the community, my resources are better spent by attending an event than by publishing any Tips.)

  • Mark Silver
    Posted by Mark Silver, Portland, Oregon | Feb 26, 2008

    I have to admit to being on the other side from Leila and Dani. Occasionally a tip will be helpful, but often it's so short that it's hard to get beyond the obvious advice. I read articles - I may scan a tip or two, but not many of them have drawn me to keep scanning them.

  • Joe Hage
    Posted by Joe Hage, Seattle, Washington | Feb 27, 2008

    On the other hand, even a short tip can imbed a link that takes you elsewhere.

    I agree with Rachel and would like to see tips get more exposure.

  • Rachel Whalley
    Posted by Rachel Whalley, Seattle, Washington | Feb 27, 2008

    My thought is, why have Tips if they are going to be barely seen?

    A cursory review of the Tips shows that most of them have very few viewings and over 90 percent are currently unrated (ie lacking votes).

    I don't always think more words equals more value. A lot of the time, more words just means more filler.

    Obviously, there's going to be wheat and chaff in every category...but what I'm saying is a short Tip can be just as valuable as a longer Article, so I think they deserve the same level of promotion.

  • Emma McCreary
    Posted by Emma McCreary, Portland, Oregon | Feb 27, 2008

    I just published my first article. At first it was under 500 words, so the system suggested I make it a tip. But I looked at the Tip section and saw it was under-utilized - hardly any ratings - so I didn't want my writing to flounder there. So I decided to expand my Tip and make it an article. I didn't add fluff though, I thought about it and added more useful info.

    I do agree with Rachel in that "why have Tips if they are going to be barely seen?" - except that it might motivate people to write Articles. =)

    One thought I have - responding to Mark - is that maybe Tips would be higher quality if they were more exposed. More people would write them - they would get rated so people would have incentive to write better ones - etc.

  • Mark Silver
    Posted by Mark Silver, Portland, Oregon | Feb 27, 2008

    These are all good thoughts... Maybe the articles and tips should all be mixed in together, with the only difference between them being a color designation, or simply in the title: Article: Title or Tip: Title.

    I've noticed that the more categories one has in online experiences, the more attention gets divided, and the more some things get ignored. The fewer the categories, the better, to focus attention.

    Especially in building community, it's important, I've found, to not give too many nooks and crannies, because people then don't gather all together in one place- they spread out, and that dissipates the energy.

  • Rachel Whalley
    Posted by Rachel Whalley, Seattle, Washington | Feb 28, 2008

    Nice comment, Emma, and I think your feedback is right on, Mark. The energy does feel scattered. I think mixing the two in the way you suggested makes sense.

  • Leila Anasazi
    Posted by Leila Anasazi, Seattle, Washington | Feb 28, 2008

    I know that in the beginning, Articles differed from Tips in that the articles were submitted, edited, reviewed and so on before publication, while Tips just appear when we submit them.

    So, Articles had more Biznik endorsement behind them, while who-knows-what merit a Tip might have.

    I haven't looked recently, but I'm suspect that's how it still is.

    Maybe Tips could earn their cred by their ratings (I acknowledge that that which is unseen doesn't get rated ...)? hmmm. I dunno.

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  • Dan McComb
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  • Rachel Whalley
    Seattle Alternative Healer & Psychotherapist
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  • Dani Nordin
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    Watertown, Massachusetts
  • Leila Anasazi
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  • Mark Silver
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