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Robert Middleton
Marketing Coach-Consultant
Boulder Creek, California
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Posted by Robert Middleton, Boulder Creek, California | May 21, 2009

Subscribe to More Clients - Discussion Your Biggest Marketing Challenge?

When you join the "More Clients" group, I invite you to post in this discussion first.

What is your biggest marketing challenge?

What is not working, hard for you, not producing consistent results, difficult to get around to or something you just don't understand and want to.

Think of it this way. If you had a breakthrough with this challenge, you'd attract more of your ideal clients with less struggle and effort.

I'll do my best to respond to all challenges posted.

Cheers, Robert

24 Bizniks have posted replies

  • Erin Ferree
    Posted by Erin Ferree, Belmont, California | May 21, 2009

    Logo design is my signature offering - so I need to bring in new clients all the time. So, finding those new people to market to is the biggest challenge I face - finding more small business owners.

  • Kaya Singer
    Posted by Kaya Singer, Portland, Oregon | May 21, 2009

    Great question Robert

    Marketing is one of my strengths, however there's always room for improvement and sharpening. The area that I want to grow faster is the numbers on my data base for my monthly Awake Biz Tips. I get great feedback that people love it and it works and very few people unsubscribe. It's at about 1000 right now and I want 5,000 by the end of the year. It could be that what I'm doing is perfect and I'm just impatient or it could be that I have a blind spot.

  • Bill Doerr
    Posted by Bill Doerr, Kensington, Connecticut | May 22, 2009

    We're launching a new business service of interest to professionals and other service providers.

    My challenge and focus is identifying and developing strategic partner relationships with sales and marketing coaches and advisors whose clients may be qualified candidates for this service.

  • ,,, ,  ;.;.;.;.
    Posted by ,,, , ;.;.;.;., llllllllllllllllllll, Pennsylvania | May 22, 2009

    I'm from the finance and investmnet banking industry. My biggest challenge is doing "cold calls" or should I say it as you so well put it Robert. "Introductory calls" I find that when marketing to or for potential clients I only have 10 seconds to relay what services I provide and business can benefit from my services..

  • Robert  Middleton
    Posted by Robert Middleton, Boulder Creek, California | May 22, 2009

    Erin,

    Do you market yourself at your local Chamber of commerce? There are tons of new business owners there and most have terrible logos. I see you do a complete package including a business card, and logo for their web sites, etc.

    I'd also find a way to contact new chamber members and introduce yourself and offer a "Complimentary Brand Assessment." Make this a process that qualifies prospective clients. Have a page about it on your web site and a form to fill out. What you want to do is take people through a process where they get to know you and ultimately have an in-depth conversation that turns a percentage of them into clients.

    So... don't sell your logo service, sell the Brand Assessment and position is as a real value. One way to do this is to do introductory workshops on branding and then offer those in attendance a Brand Assessment. Yes, you need to refine it so that you are not wasting time with tire kickers, but this kind of process really works.

  • Robert  Middleton
    Posted by Robert Middleton, Boulder Creek, California | May 22, 2009

    Kaya,

    I just did an interview on this topic where we cover a ton of ideas for building a list. It will be in my Marketing Club in early June.

    One good way to build a list is with online articles posted on eZineArticles.com. Another is doing surveys and another is starting a group (like this one) on Facebook or Biznik.

  • Robert  Middleton
    Posted by Robert Middleton, Boulder Creek, California | May 22, 2009

    Bill, finding these people is easier than getting them to refer business to you. I'd create a very focused newsletter or eZine that went to this group and only talk about bottom line results your clients are getting from this service. This may be a long-term strategy but if you build your business on success stories, you'll get more referrals. I'd also offer these people special programs/workshops/teleclasses to show the kind of value you offer. Keep your name, message and value in front of them.

  • Robert  Middleton
    Posted by Robert Middleton, Boulder Creek, California | May 22, 2009

    Vincent, I would never, ever, never buy services from a financial services person calling me cold. Never. I get these kind of calls all the time. I turn them down 100% of the time no matter what they say.

    Instead, I'd expand my network into groups with people who could be potential clients and I'd have a marketing message that got people's attention.

    I found a money manager on Biznik. She posted in a forum and mentioned that during the downturn non of her clients had lost any money in their portfolios. I contacted her immediately!

    You're in a tough business now!

  • Kaya Singer
    Posted by Kaya Singer, Portland, Oregon | May 22, 2009

    Thanks Robert

    I appreciate your ideas and I guess I'm on the right track! I've been doing articles for the last two years and I have a Biznik Group- Overcome the Myth of Struggle and one on Linked in, Awakening Women in Business, however I haven't done surveys and I'd love to know more about that if you wouldn't mind sharing.

  • Daniel Mandel
    Posted by Daniel Mandel, Northern California, California | May 22, 2009

    Hi Robert. As always thanks for your leadership here. I have a mobile funeral home that serves 12 counties of Northern California by bringing everything to the client. This is so different from what my competitors do that many people assume I'm too far away and don't call. It's difficult to fully explain what we do in a print ad and newspapers reject giving us coverage because they do not consider us "Local." Families love it and find it much easier but how can I communicate it effectively on a large scale? I find speaking engagements help but it's hard to get booked.

  • Gary Powell
    Posted by Gary Powell, Portland, Oregon | May 22, 2009

    As a small business owner in the advertising specialty field (promotional products & career apparel), my biggest challenge is getting the most out of a limited marketing budget. We are focusing more and more on utilizing the local directories such as merchant circle, but most of our contacts come from Google adwords. That being said, it's getting kind of expensive in Googleland.

  • Robert  Middleton
    Posted by Robert Middleton, Boulder Creek, California | May 22, 2009

    Kaya, I'm not an expert on Surveys but it's pretty easy to do one on Survey Monkey. The person I interviewed suggested putting out a press release on PR Wire on a relevant topic and then directing people to the survey. But you must capture peoples' name and email before they do the survey.

    Daniel, whenever you have an interesting and different business, you become press worthy. I'm not an expert in this area but I'd look into someone helping you to develop interesting press releases for your service. Your website looks very professional but frankly you could have ten times the content to explain your services.

    I think your most important link is "Learn About Funeral Services" but that link is buried (no pun intended) at the bottom of the page and mostly talks about Jewish funerals. The whole aspect of "brining personalized services to your own front door" is not emphasized enough.

    Gary, you have a great website and look very professional. But you are in a commodity-type business where your main differentiators are price and service. But people are attracted to a company because of relationships and the word-of-mouth they generate.

    I'd try to stand out more by emphasizing those relationships. One way would be a series of simple videos with clients telling what it's like working with you. You'd want them to be fun and upbeat and authentic.

    When someone came to your website they'd see something different and be drawn into the stories and personalities of your customers. The impression needs to be: "These people are just like me and they seem to love this company, I should check them out."

    As good as your web site is, it doesn't have that impact. I think this would really differentiate you from your competitors.

    Remember, you have two tasks when marketing on the Internet, one is to get people to your site. You're accomplishing that with your AdWords campaign at quite a high cost.

    The other is the conversion factor. That is, how many who visit your site will respond? I'd put a lot of time and effort into that and work at doubling or tripling your response with approaches such as the videos.

    David Ogilvy, the adman said, "You can't bore people into doing business with you." So do things that really get people's attention and pull them into your world.

    Hope these comments help!

  • Prafulla Pande
    Posted by Prafulla Pande, Bloomfield Hills, Michigan | May 22, 2009

    I am a business advisor and a coach. My clients tell me that I am very good at what I do.

    My biggest challenge is generating qualified leads. I work with C-Level people and getting to them is difficult. Most of my business is built through referrals but I need leads beyond what referrals provide me.

  • Jennifer Werth
    Posted by Jennifer Werth, Grand Rapids, Michigan | May 22, 2009

    I have a similar challenge as Prafulla. My biggest challenge is getting many as well as the right people to know about me and what I do.

    I have a large network, however 90% aren't at a decision making nor influential level.

  • Gary Powell
    Posted by Gary Powell, Portland, Oregon | May 22, 2009

    Thank you for the comments Robert. I do know that I need a little something different of my web site, but I am not sure that video is for me. Maybe there is another way to emphasize those relationships. Thank you again for taking the time to look at my site.

  • ,,, ,  ;.;.;.;.
    Posted by ,,, , ;.;.;.;., llllllllllllllllllll, Pennsylvania | May 22, 2009

    Thank you Robert for your insight. Most helpful! I'm fairly new in marketing, so please forgive me if I ask a novice question. Why is cold calling such a taboo? All of my clients and potential clients are small to middle size business. The financial services my company provides bridges the gap for business to either expand and/or stay alive, especially in this current beat up economy. My set back is being able to convey in a brief and informed manner what my company can bring to the table.

    What is the person’s name to whom you are referring to? I'm open to all suggestions.

    P.S Love your articles.Very thought provoking.

  • Robert  Middleton
    Posted by Robert Middleton, Boulder Creek, California | May 22, 2009

    Prafulla, you're a long time subscriber and you've used some of my materials. You should be in my Marketing Club. Use it to create a detailed marketing action plan. One of my top recommendations for consultants is to do speaking engagements, intro workshops, etc. You can't wait for business to come to you.

    Jennifer, same advice. Get out there and do speaking. This is how I built my business in the mid 90's. It was the key. It resulted in a lot of new clients and real momentum in my business that hasn't stopped.

    Gary don't write off the video idea so quickly. The most powerful marketing tools anyone has are testimonials and case studies. But yours don't say a lot. Given that you're in a commodity business, videos would convey the personality of your customers and your brand. It would cost less than you think.

    Don't think videos work? Check out Blend Tec. They do no advertising, but their videos have been seen millions of times and it they have helped grow the business explosively.

    Your most important task as an entrepreneur: innovation. You need to get out of your comfort zone and do what makes you uncomfortable. That's where the breakthroughs are.

    Vincent, cold calls can work but it's very hard. People don't like speaking to strangers and when it comes to investing money in this climate people are even more wary.

    Continue to cold call if you like but I'd spend a lot of time networking, giving seminars, improving your web site (sorry to be blunt but what you have would convince me NEVER to do business with you.) You need a new design and a lot more content. I don't know if you have control over this, if not, too bad, but this web site is hurting you more than helping you. That is, you'd probably get more business without this web site. Check out my Web Site ToolKit for a complete tutorial on building a client attracting web site.

    The money manager's name is Grace Antares.

    Cheers, Robert

  • ,,, ,  ;.;.;.;.
    Posted by ,,, , ;.;.;.;., llllllllllllllllllll, Pennsylvania | May 22, 2009

    OUCH!! Thank you. I appreciate your honest feedback and your time. Constructive cirticism never is always a back rub. My company is currently upgrading their website. The personnel in charge are on adding some final touches. Hopefully people, professionals and business wouldn't be so quick to judge the valuable services we can bring to their business here on biznik just by viewing the web site alone. This includes you too Robert. =).

  • Lisa Hanna
    Posted by Lisa Hanna, Portland, Oregon | May 23, 2009

    I'm a SOHO consultant and bookkeeper and the biggest challenge I'm currently facing is getting clients to open up and tell me what they need.

    I've put together a "Play It Forward" concept in which I'm willing to assist them in advance of payment. Why? Because I think small entrepreneurs are struggling right now and don't have upfront money to pay, especially if they aren't generating additional revenues as a result of any endeavors they may be trying.

    I do get some flack for it...some think because it sounds free-my offer isn't valuable and others are worried that I won't get paid at all. However, I don't support either of those ideas.

    What I don't want to see them keep doing is attending lead groups, classes, etc., that they often don't utilize well or at all.

    So I'm offering to help, based on their needs. I can develop a quantifiable success program and guide and motivate them to it's successful end result. They can then see why this works best and afford to pay from gains they've received.

    This is my Purple Cow...

    What am I missing out on here?

  • Edward Aldama
    Posted by Edward Aldama, Phoenix, Arizona | May 24, 2009

    Hi Robert, First, I must tell you that I am very impressed by the insightful advice you have shared with the members thus far. You have been extremely generous and I truly appreciate your expertise and at times candor...

    My biggest challenge has always been the focus of my message … I have so much to share and my client’s needs are so varied that I tend to ramble when designing marketing materials, or at least I think I do.

  • Robert  Middleton
    Posted by Robert Middleton, Boulder Creek, California | May 26, 2009

    Lisa, I think you are going in the right direction, but the devil is in the details.

    I just did an Expert Interview for my Marketing Club that goes into great detail on how to set up "Pay What You Can" services. It's mostly for workshops but can be applied to some degree to other services. It's quite brilliant.

    You can't just give away services, you need to offer them in a certain way. If you hope that they'll pay you later without an explicit agreement it usually doesn't turn out well.

    It's impossible to give you a lot of details here (It was a 48 page transcript), so I urge you to check out the Marketing Club

    The first month's membership is now free and you can get access to a ton of hands-on stuff that can help your business.

    Cheers, Robert

  • Robert  Middleton
    Posted by Robert Middleton, Boulder Creek, California | May 26, 2009

    Edward, Read my article on Biznik about Marketing Ball. It's all about creating powerful messages that get you on "first base."

    This is so friggin' simple but it's like a code that most people don't crack. I talk about it in my More Clients eZine today as well in the context of the Marketing Conversation.

    There's a definite formula for this. Once you get it, your marketing will never be the same.

    Check out the Marketing Club as well!

    Cheers, Robert

  • Robert  Middleton
    Posted by Robert Middleton, Boulder Creek, California | May 26, 2009

    Vincent, You said: "Hopefully people, professionals and business wouldn't be so quick to judge the valuable services we can bring to their business here on biznik just by viewing the web site alone."

    I really hate to tell you, but yes they will. People are judgmental. That's just the way it is. And if what you present doesn't communicate, they will give up and go elsewhere fast. Even if they like you!

    I know it's not fair. But it didn't come easy to me either. I redesigned my website 5 full times from scratch in 12 years. I'm not brilliant but I'm persistent! (And it's still hardly perfect, but it brings me a ton of business).

    I hope your re-designers know what they're doing! Let me see it when they're done.

    Cheers, Robert

  • ,,, ,  ;.;.;.;.
    Posted by ,,, , ;.;.;.;., llllllllllllllllllll, Pennsylvania | May 26, 2009

    Thanks Robert! Hopefully You'll be the first to view the redesign. Again, I Thank you for your excellent insights, yout time and great conversation.

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    Belmont, California
  • Kaya Singer
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    Portland, Oregon
  • Bill Doerr
    Markitect
    Kensington, Connecticut
  • ,,, ,  ;.;.;.;.
    llllllllllll
    llllllllllllllllllll, Pennsylvania
  • Robert  Middleton
    Marketing Coach-Consultant
    Boulder Creek, California
  • Daniel Mandel
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  • Gary Powell
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